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Updated 5/6/2021
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Okay so here's the situation: you
have two different audio recordings,
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one for each person who is part of an interview.
So those are two separate audio files that we're
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going to combine but we also want to add some
background music and some other audio. So we're
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going to look at where we can find some background
music. My favorite spot is Free Music Archive.
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There's a lot of different features in Free Music
Archive that make it pretty easy to navigate.
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One thing is they have the genres so
you can look at just instrumental music
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(for background music it's a good option).
You can listen to any of the songs...
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It is a little bit difficult to search through-
you have to listen a lot. You can't really go
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off the titles or the genres necessarily to
find things that you like. So it is kind of a
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time-consuming process. I already found a
song that I'm going to use. I like this one...
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For a little bit of intro music. You can
download it straight from here but one
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thing that's important to keep in mind is
you will want to find out what the usage
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rights are. And so not everything in Free Music
Archive is going to be completely usable by you.
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And I'll have more details about that in the
comments, but in this case the license is a BY so
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I have to give them attribution -- I have to say
who this is by. And then NC so non-commercial and
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since I'm not making any money off of this video,
I don't, I'm okay I can use this as long as I give
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Blue Dot Sessions attribution. And so what I'm
going to do is go ahead and download this. And
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so if I click on the download on a mac I will
also have to right click and then save audio as.
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(Wait for my slow computer)
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I'm gonna go ahead and close that. I'm going back
to the Creating Audio: Software page. So there's
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Free Music Archive is a great spot for audio.
There's other spots too: YouTube Audio Library
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is a good one, searching Bandcamp, vide- Videvo,
or I'm not sure you pronounce that -- they have
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a few options you've got to make sure that you're
restricting it to just free clips though. If you
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want other kind of sounds like nature sounds --
I want to have some kind of ambient sounds. My
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favorite is Sound Bible. Videvo also has some good
clips but I'm going to show you about Sound Bible.
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Sound Bible has things broken down by subjects
so I can just click on this to see a bunch of
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different animal sound options. Some of the
more popular more recent ones are going to
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show up on the sidebar here. There's new ones
down here at the bottom. But I can just search,
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and so what I want to do is I'm going to
look... I want to look for something...
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some sounds of someone going on a hike. And so
again I can see license information right here.
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Public domain means I don't have to give any
attribution. I can do whatever I want with the
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recording. I can make money off of it, I can
change it, do whatever I want. So that's...
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I always like to find public domain.
I can listen to it right here:
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And that seems pretty close to what I want. And so
to download it. I just click on the title of it.
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There's a .wav file that I can download
or an .mp3. .wav is generally a more...
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it's a format that's going to be usable
in more different types of programs,
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but generally speaking .wav and .mp3
should both be pretty good. I'm going to
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grab the .wav file. So I've downloaded my hiking
trail sound. I've downloaded my background music.
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I already have the recordings
of my audio. And so...
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for the interview. So what I'm going to do next
is I'm going to go ahead and open up Audacity.
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It's free and open source so it's one that I
recommend to folks. Audacity is pretty easy to use
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there's a lot of features that we're not going
to cover but for the things that we're going
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to cover today... you can do mostly... you can
learn how to do most of those pretty quickly.
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Hopefully by the end of this video you'll have
a good idea of how to do some of these things.
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It might take a little bit of trying to get
it down. But first, what we're going to do
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is we're going to want to import our tracks --
our different audio tracks -- into our project.
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And so we can do this just by opening the folder
where they're located and then clicking on them
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and dragging them into the Audacity workspace. You
can see now they're all loaded. There's a separate
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track for each different sound clip. So you can
see each one is a different length. Each track is
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also a stereo track in this case, so you can see
there's a left and a right channel for each track.
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So it looks like there's eight separate tracks.
Depending upon the audio that you import you
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might have stereo or you might have mono. Both
are fine. Stereo simply means that there might
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be a little bit different sound in the left
hand channel than in the right hand channel.
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And so sometimes that's beneficial, but if you
just see one, um, one channel for each track,
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that's fine -- no need to panic. And so we can
play through and listen to it by hitting the
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play button here: [audio playback with various
elements playing at once, including narration:
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"Hello everyone and welcome to my
podcast. Today I have a really..."]
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Right now we're hearing everything all together
and it's kind of annoying. There's a lot of things
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going on at the same time and so one thing I'm
going to do is I'm going to start organizing.
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You can see we have the titles of the tracks
here on the side: and so here we have Tim
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speaking. That's Tim's speaking part. And so I
can move this up because that's the first thing
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I'm going to really focus on. So I can move it
up along the queue by clicking on that little
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down arrow and moving it all the way to the
top. And then you can see here I have Jim's
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speaking part. And in the beginning he doesn't
really say anything until he gets introduced
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a little ways into the segment. And so
him... I can kind of ignore that for now
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and so I'm going to mute his track so I'm not
going to be able to hear it as we play through.
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So that's going to make things a little bit easier
to focus on. But you can see here I have the
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clap at the beginning that makes it so that we
can sync it up later and we'll get into that a
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little bit later. And so one thing that I want to
talk about is being able to focus on the pieces
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that you want to. And there's a couple different
features in Audacity for you to control that. And
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so if I want to just focus on these first two
bits: the interviewer and the background music,
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I can go ahead and mute the other tracks. So I've
already muted the interviewee I can also mute that
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outdoor sound, that ambient noise. There's
another feature that also kind of enables
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you to isolate one track at a time and
so instead of muting individual tracks
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I can choose the solo button. So now I have
everything selected so I can hear it but when
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I hit the solo button, I can only hear the
one that I click the solo button on. And so
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that really lets you focus on just that one
track. It's kind of the opposite of the mute,
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um but it's a very handy quick way to just
isolate one track that you want to listen to
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So another useful tool when you're dealing with
the playback is being able to skip around on
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different parts of the track. And so you can
see if you just click on the timeline at the
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top it'll move the playhead. But also you can use
the spacebar to stop or play the track so if you
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ever want to stop it, just hit the spacebar. And
if you want to skip ahead, just go ahead and click
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anywhere on the timeline. There are also a few
different tools at your disposal. So right now,
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I'm on the selection tool that's what's
highlighted at the top there. And so when I
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click and drag, I can select areas of the audio
track. if I double click, I can select the entire
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track. When I select anything and I hit the delete
key it just automatically deletes that. If I hit
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ctrl+z, it'll undo that. So I just delete and then
ctrl+z. Another useful tool for controlling the
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volume really precisely is the envelope tool.
And so here I'm going to click a couple dots
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and those are just points where I'm going to
change the levels. And so here you can see I
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have two different points at the beginning. It
starts at full volume and then it tapers down to
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be a little bit quieter. And I can just control
that by clicking and dragging the mouse. And so
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this is this will be nice, the music will start in
loud in the podcast and then as the person starts
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talking it'll get a little bit quieter. And so
I can kind of shift the placement of where the
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person starts talking to match up with
this fade out -- or fade down, rather.
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The next tool we're going to look at is the time
shift tool. This little double arrow here. And so
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this will allow us to place the speaker so that
right when they start talking right at the point
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where the volume of the music starts going down.
And so here we can just visually line those up and
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then listen: [audio playback of the background
music and narrator: "Hello everyone and welcome
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to my podcast. Today I have a really exciting
interview with one of my close friends..."] And
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really this is a process of listening and kind of
just being able to tell by ear whether or not the
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levels are going to be sufficient. So is the music
quiet enough so that I can hear the speaker? Do I
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want to tweak it a little bit? And in this case
I do I want to. I want it a little bit quieter
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and depending upon your setup and your track
sometimes getting it down to get really low can
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be tricky. And so you're going to want to change
the size of how the tracks are displayed. So you
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can just drag the bottom part of the track
itself and then it gives you a little more
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granular precision: [audio playback of background
music and narrator: "a really exciting interview
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with one of my close friends. You know, last
week..."] And then it's really just a matter of
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making little micro adjustments. [audio playback
of background music and narrator: "really exciting
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interview with one of my close friends..."] To
try to see what you do or don't like, you know,
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what is acceptable. Is this loud enough? Is it
too loud? Can I hear the music at all anymore?
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You don't want the music so quiet that it's
inaudible or that it's distracting because
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people are trying to figure out what's going
on but you don't want it to be drowning out
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the narration. So now we're just going to
listen to the entire beginning sequence:
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[audio playback of background music and narrator:
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"Hello everyone and welcome to my
pod...] I'm pretty happy with that!
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Okay so now I have my levels pretty much
how I want them. I still have this kind of
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annoying clap in the very beginning which we're
gonna... we're still gonna use to sync up later,
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so I'm not gonna get rid of that yet.
But something to keep in mind is, um,
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just kind of making sure that you tweak everything
so that it's set up to start playing exactly when
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you want it to. And speaking of that, I have
this track of somebody hiking. It's just ambient
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noise of them hiking and in the introduction the
interviewer talks about hiking so I want to line
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those up so they happen at the same time. [audio
playback of background music and narrator: "You
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know last week I was out on a hike walking..."]
And so I'm going to play it back until I hear
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that point where it says "hiking" [audio playback
of background music and narrator: "walking through
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the forest.."] I'm going to make a note of where
that happens on the timeline, right. So I want
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to [audio playback cuts in and out periodically]
shift I'm going to use the time shift tool to move
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that hiking sound right at that same point, about
15 seconds. Okay so I'm gonna have to switch from
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the envelope tool to the time shift tool. And
you can see I have this little "No" icon. So the
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mouse cursor is a little "No" symbol that
means that I can't use it on any of these.
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That's because I didn't have my track stopped.
I had it paused instead of stopped. Once it's
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stopped, then I can shift this to where I want it
to be. And since I have track one way up high and
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track three pretty far down one thing I can do
is just make track two a little bit more narrow,
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or I can move track three all the way up which is
what I prefer to do. I like to see them side by
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side. There's no real difference in whether... in
the order of the tracks. They all will sound the
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same, so it's really just whatever your workflow
preference is. [audio playback of background
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music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...you know
last week I was out on a hike walking through
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the forest enjoying the sun..."] Just try to get
that exactly where I want it to be so it matches
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up with the narration -- so it goes along with
what the listener is going to be listening to.
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And I'm going to go back to the selection
tool because now I want to select this track.
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The background noise is a little too
loud so I'm going to just lower that.
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And instead of using the envelope tool I'm
going to use an effect. So there's a whole
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wide range of effects. There's a few things
I want to do: maybe fade in, fade out...
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but just the overall volume, I'm going to play
with the amplify tool. Amplify will let me either
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boost or reduce the volume for that track.
So in this case I'm just going to choose...
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the amplification: I'm going to go negative 10
decibels. That's a pretty significant drop in
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volume: [audio playback of background music,
narrator, and hiking sound: "...in the air and
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the birds in the trees feeling the ground beneath
the soles of my feet..."] So I'm pretty happy here
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with the volume of the background noise but I
noticed that the speaker gets quieter a little
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ways into it. So they started off talking a little
bit louder and then they got quieter once it went
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underway: [audio playback of background music,
narrator, and hiking sound: "...ground beneath
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the soles of my feet I thought of one..."] And
so it's really kind of just battling against
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that background noise. So I don't want to reduce
the background noise too far because then we won't
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be able to hear it so instead what I'm going to
do is I'm going to try to to bring up the level
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of the narration. And so here we can see there's
some low lows and some high peaks. And so I'm
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going to use a tool called the compressor which
is going to kind of even all those out. So all
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the peaks will be about the same level.
I'm just going to go with the presets I'm
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not going to change anything just click "OK."
And now you can see those peaks -- those high
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peaks are all pretty much matched. There's a
little more uniformity across the middle there
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as well: [audio playback of background music,
narrator, and hiking sound: "...feeling the ground
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beneath the soles of my feet I thought of one
person who's introduced me to so many wonderful
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spots..."] And that's quite a bit better. I like
the levels quite a bit more but I can use the
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amplify tool to give it just a little bit more
of a boost so now that it's more uniform: bring
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those peaks up a little bit more. [audio playback
of background music, narrator, and hiking sound:
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"...feet I thought of one person who's
introduced me to so many wonderful spots..."]
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And that is pretty close. That sounds really
good I can still hear the background quite well
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as well as the narration. But now I want
to kind of tweak the background so that
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really matches up to what the narrator is
saying. So I want it to end right where
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the narrator ends I want it to fade in so it
doesn't have a sharp starting point and I want
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it to fade out so it doesn't have a sharp ending
point. And so I'm going to use those two tools.
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But one thing I haven't done yet is make sure that
it's the length that I want it to. So I have it
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starting where I want it to start but I haven't
checked to see if it's going to end where I want
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it to end, right? And that's pretty important --
we don't want the background noise to be going on
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when we've shifted to a different
topic. So let's listen to that
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again: [audio playback of background music,
narrator, and hiking sound: "...one person who's
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introduced me to so many wonderful spots and he's
here in the studio today to talk to me about..."]
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Okay and so now when we're talking
about the person coming into the studio
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that's where we know we want that background noise
to end. Now we only want that imagery to be when
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we're out on hike once we come back to the studio
we're going to get rid of that background sound so
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that people understand we're back in the studio.
So what I'm going to do now is just delete the
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last part right so I'll find the spot where I want
to end. Select it all and then just hit the delete
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key. It's going to get rid of that last bit. And
so now, though, I've lost my fade out so I'm going
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to go ahead and select the end of it again and do
my fade out effect. [audio playback of background
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music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...and so
he's here in the studio today to talk to me about
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how he started his business sharing wonderful
areas like this and a little insight..."] And
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that's a pretty perfect ending spot right there
that I'm pretty happy with where that ends off.
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However, there's one other thing that I want to
kind of tweak. So I've got three sounds competing
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here, I've got: [audio playback of background
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ground beneath the soles of my feet. I thought
of one person who's introduced me just..."] I've
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got the background music, the hiking, and the
narration. And it's a little bit much. That can,
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you know, depending on your personal preferences
that can be fine but me, personally, I want to
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really just go on this hike I want this hike to
be the only thing that the listener is thinking
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about. So I'm going to use my envelope tool again
on the music and I'm going to totally fade it down
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all the way so we can't hear it. And again
you can just kind of tweak, play around,
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with that envelope tool and move those dots
around. Get the right amount of fade in,
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fade out there. [audio playback of background
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trees. Feeling the ground beneath the soles of my
feet, I thought of one person who's introduced me
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to so many won..."] And now that has quite
a different feel, right? I really like that:
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no sound, no music, at all. Nothing other than
person talking and the hike. And it really kind
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of takes the listener out of the studio onto the
trail and that's kind of what I'm hoping for in
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that moment. But I want to make sure that there's
no music at all, so I'm going to solo that track
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and then listen to it again and make
sure that there's no sound at all.
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Sure enough it's perfectly quiet so I'm pretty
happy with that. And so now I'm going to listen
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to it all again together here, let's see: [audio
playback of background music, narrator, and hiking
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sound: "...and he's here in the studio today to
talk to me about how he started his business,
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sharing wonderful areas like this and a little
insight into what he does on day to day.
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Jim, welcome to the podcast!"] And so now we
have it fading out of the trail back into the
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music back into the studio. And then we need to
sync up the interviewee with the interviewer.
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So I'm going to move the order of my tracks
again. I got Jim all the way up here at the top,
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so Jim can be matched up with the interviewer. And
so you can see here is when he comes in it's...
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there's a bit of a lag from where it's supposed
to be. And that's because at the beginning he,
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uh, started recording a bunch of dead air at the
beginning, which is totally fine -- that's better
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than starting halfway in or something. But what
I'm going to do is I'm going to sync up these
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claps. And so I'm just going to use the time
shift tool. Delete the beginning of his track.
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Line up those two lines there. We can see the
clap there is that line, that long vertical line,
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just visually line those up. It can be a little
bit easier to line those up if I use the zoom in
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tool. So that's just a little magnifying glass and
I just click on that spot. And you can see here
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the claps are still a little bit off so I'm going
to go ahead and use the time shift tool. Yeah,
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there we go. And line those up just as perfectly
as I can and then I'm going to play it back and
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listen and see how closely those are synced. And
that's pretty close. That's pretty perfect. You
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know, you can kind of play around with this
until you get it exactly how you want it to
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be but for the most part you know you can be a
few milliseconds off and it'll sound fine. It's
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only if you can hear both people through one
mic that it might cause some sort of problem.
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But if they're in two different cities or,
you know, two different rooms entirely,
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um, being a little bit off isn't going to make
a huge difference. [audio playback of background
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music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...welcome
to the podcast. (second speaker) Well thank
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you for having me!"] So in this case I'm pretty
happy with that. You know, you have the person
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coming in at an appropriate amount of time
after the interviewer asks them a question.
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And so I like that. And one other thing, though,
to think about is do I want the background music
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playing throughout? So here I can say "sure, maybe
I want the background music playing forever."
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"Maybe I want to lower it a little bit."
"Maybe I want to totally fade it out."
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Maybe the background music is just for this kind
of opening intro and so once I fade, once I get
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into the interview itself then I want to fade the
music out so we can just focus on the interview.
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Again, it's kind of personal preference. I'm
going to get rid of this. And so one thing I
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can do is I could select that and I could delete
it. I could just get rid of it entirely if I'm
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not going to use it again. There's not really a
whole... there's not a lot of drawbacks to that.
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The only possible problem would be that maybe I
want to come back to the music at the end. And so
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I'm going to just use the envelope tool to just
fade it out. And so as this, as Jim is starting
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to talk I'm going to slowly fade it out. So when
he says "thank you for having me" or whatever,
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the music is just slowly fading out. And so then
their discussion starts and there's no music,
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there's no trail sounds, there's nothing else
other than just quiet studio. And again you can
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kind of tweak this. As you drag the little
dot forward and backward along the timeline
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it will change the length of that fade out.
One thing you want to pay attention to, again,
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is making sure that you're listening to it so
that it is dead air. In this case we don't hear
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anything: [audio playback of background
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the podcast. (second speaker)
Well thank you for having me!"
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Totally dead, so that's that's great. And now you
know, uh, obviously if this was a longer project,
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a real project, these were just samples -- sample
files -- um, we'd have a much longer interview.
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But I'd have my intro nailed at this point and
assuming that my two speakers... their levels are
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right overall, which I can tweak with the amplify.
Maybe for the interviewee, I'd want to compress
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all of his audio as well. So I could double click
and compress that and amplify it a little bit.
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But otherwise, you know, that should remain pretty
easy. Once their conversation starts I'm not going
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to be tweaking all these different things so at
this point I'm pretty close to just being done.
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And since I just lowered the volume with the
envelope tool of that background track I can
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bring up that music again later. Maybe in between
segments or at the end. Another thing though that
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I want to cover real quick is how to kind
of get rid of any mistakes. So let's just
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pretend this middle section here in the intro is
something I want to delete out. I can just select
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it with the select tool, hit the delete key,
delete it. And I can do the same for part of...
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part of the segment in the middle or the whole
ending part. I can also select... and so I'm
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going to undo that, so I get all the full
track back. I can also select part of it and
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cut it out. And then I can move... move it to
a different area, or move a different segment,
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rather than just deleting it. When I delete it,
it just automatically goes all back together.
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Instead, with the cut tool -- this little
scissors here -- I can cut it out and then
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I have that saved to my clipboard. And then I can
delete any part or I can move that cut piece to a
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different section. So I'm going to delete the part
that was the mistake move my timeline, move my
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cursor to the point on the timeline where I want
to then paste it in. And so now I have some dead
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air in the middle there so in case my timings
were important you know I didn't want the the
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piece just to be deleted out with no dead air in
between I can do that. The other thing, though,
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I want to do is I want to zoom in to make sure
there's no noise at all. So in this case there's
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that little tiny sound wave so there's going to
be a pop. So by zooming in I can just delete any
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last little little vestige of it. As long as
you have a really good flat line there that
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means it's pretty much all quiet but another
thing I might do is do a fade in or fade out
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just to kind of reduce any pops that might occur
from cutting something out right in the middle
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And then here I can time shift the
whole piece, there, so that the
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interviewer and the interviewee are still
lined up. So again, you know, you want to
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think about the timings whenever you're deleting
out... if you're cutting out a middle piece
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because you made a mistake or for whatever reason,
you want to make sure that doesn't throw off the
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other timings with other people. And so that's
the basics of Audacity! We looked at some of the
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tools. We looked at some of the effects. There's
certainly a lot more that you can do with Audacity
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but these are some of the basics that can
get you started in creating a podcast.
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Check the notes: there's links to a lot of these
different tools and to other tutorials. And
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check out the creating audio guide, there's a lot
more links as well, including one that's a video
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tutorial on using Audacity in general. And if you
have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Thanks!